Curse

Keero89 · Nov 02, 2007, 12:54 AM // 00:54

I just recently passed the Academy thing, and degen skills like [skill]Conjure Phantasm[/skill] and that Necro Syphon one (the -2/+2 De-Regen) is working pretty good since I drain from multiple foes in the Ascalon area, but I'm not sure if the whole Degen play will work well as I continue on in the game. Should I switch to Empathy/Backfire (which is boring imo) and Interrupts and use the Curse line, or continue with Illusion/Blood? [Only got Prophecies at the moment if that helps.]

Stormlord Alex · Nov 02, 2007, 01:14 AM // 01:14

Degeneration is pretty strong early on, where you can really see the effects of a foe losing 10hp a second.

However, as you progress, foes get more health, and hit harder.
I'd rather be running Domination to shut down and interrupt enemies than a piddly degen mes.
Btw - Domination effects really start to hurt at higher levels, Backfire doing over 100 damage a spell and Empathy on roughly 50 damage an attack is a helluva a lot harder hitting than degen.

I'd probably move over to Domination around Yak's Bend time in Prophecies. Plenty of practise interrupting Frost Golems, Dalyak Rider monks that need killing fast, and stuff.

joemanstar · Nov 02, 2007, 01:36 AM // 01:36

Degen can work pretty well when you're fighting low lvl foe because their health bar is short
Domination can be really powerful in later stage of the game, and also pvp

Keero89 · Nov 02, 2007, 01:39 AM // 01:39

Okay, cool. Does Degen and Energy Denial work fairly well?

arsie · Nov 02, 2007, 01:50 AM // 01:50

Save your 2 second cast hexes until the mobs get to level 24 or something, before that, by the time your hexes go on, the mob has 1/4 health left.

E-denial does not work quite well in PvE because mobs have high energy regen.

the_jos · Nov 02, 2007, 12:04 PM // 12:04

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E-denial does not work quite well in PvE because mobs have high energy regen.

I can confirm this.
Yesterday I completely drained a monk in HM Regent Valley (E-surge+E-burn) and a few seconds later it cast Heal Area.
Degen has value, but there are better alternatives to use against high-end foes.

Dean Harper · Nov 02, 2007, 09:48 PM // 21:48

Edenial isnt really needed in PvE, people just want to kill things, not shut them down (cept some bosses). Go Dom with a basic damage bar:

[skill]Energy Surge[/skill][skill]Energy Burn[/skill][skill]Power Drain[/skill][skill]Mistrust[/skill][skill]Empathy[/skill][skill]Backfire[/skill][skill]Arcane Echo[/skill][skill]Cry of Pain[/skill]

for more e-management, lose Backfire, and add in [skill]Auspicious Incantation[/skill], or just add in [skill]Power Spike[/skill] instead of CoP, and [skill]Shame[/skill] instead of Arcane Echo

pink penguin · Nov 04, 2007, 08:32 PM // 20:32

Actually I would advise you to stay illusion. Inneptitude and clumsiness are excellent skills during your whole mesmer PvE carreer. However it isn't health draining.

However if you want to go domination I would always add Assasins Promise to your bar as elite since both your energy management and recharge time are worse when using domination. This way you can make a pretty decent PvE dom bar.

dicecube · Nov 04, 2007, 11:02 PM // 23:02

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Originally Posted by Dean Harper

for more e-management, [skill]Power Spike[/skill] instead of CoP

i dont get how that works for e-management, care to explain?

Painbringer · Nov 05, 2007, 06:24 PM // 18:24

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Originally Posted by dicecube

i dont get how that works for e-management, care to explain?

I can only assume but I think he means you can get a disruption spell like [skill]power spike[/skill] for only 5 energy where as a spell like [skill]cry of frustration[/skill] is 15 energy. Although it is an awesome spell it is far too spendy for my skill bar

MrFinklestein · Nov 06, 2007, 04:50 AM // 04:50

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Originally Posted by pink penguin

Actually I would advise you to stay illusion. Inneptitude and clumsiness are excellent skills during your whole mesmer PvE carreer. However it isn't health draining.

However if you want to go domination I would always add Assasins Promise to your bar as elite since both your energy management and recharge time are worse when using domination. This way you can make a pretty decent PvE dom bar.

The guy only has proph.